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Wow, thanks for all of the info! Very kind of you. I kind of went off fasting because of adrenal issues I thought might be exacerbating my heart arrhythmia issues. I learned from Dr. Ray Peat (who has a PhD in biology and physiology) that my liver needs carbs to stabilize hormones/thyroid etc which all connect to my adrenals. When blood sugar is low, adrenals spike in response, so I’ve been afraid fasting would have a detrimental affect on my adrenals. The human body is so complex and each is unique so it can be quite a puzzle. I always enjoy learning something new so I will continue reading your interesting posts.

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Thomas N. Seyfried has been doing remarkable work on looking at cancer as a metabolic disease ie ketogenic diet and glioblastoma. Guy Tenenbaum also has a remarkable cancer recovery story. His cancer protocol includes fasting. Intermittent fasting has also been recommended by some doctors for covid spike detox.

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Shared with a friend dealing with cancer. Keep going!! The work you are doing MATTERS! God bless you in this work.

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Thank you!

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Fabulous article! About fasting, I’ve tried it over the years with mixed results. So, I’m open to it, but not a rabid fan. Then, I saw a video on Youtube with the Bullet Coffee originator (sorry, forget his name) and he and another health guru were saying that pretty much all studies on fasting are done on college-aged males and that the results don’t translate to women. They said that women are actually harmed by fasting as their bodies are geared toward bearing children and therefore need to optimize nutrition. The two nutrition experts actually expressed contrition for promoting health fads such as Keto, vegetarianism and veganism. The fact that study subjects are mostly young males has come up before in past decades in relation to heart attacks. I remember reading women present very differently during heart attacks, but this was not acknowledged in the scientific literature because the research had been done on young males and so, many women died unnecessarily through lack of the full picture. I would be very interested in your take on this - male vs female fasting. Thanks again for your great article.

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Hello! Thank you for your comment. My post Fasting for Women at Different Stages addresses this topic in depth.

https://fastwell.substack.com/p/fasting-for-women-at-different-stages

The cliff notes version is that Dr. Jason Fung has accumulated decades of evidence on how fasting affects women since his fasting clinic "The Fasting Method" has now treated over 30,000 people. He has found that women do exceptionally well fasting. Women definitely need proper nutrition for childbearing, but proper fasting should never make someone low on nutrients. The idea with fasting is to eat rich foods such as meat and healthy animal fats in an eating window that allows the body digestive rest.

However, a woman who needs to lose body fat for health purposes can do longer fasting hours each day and have short eating windows to tap into her fat stores. In this scenario, she is still well fueled with nutrients since her body is able to access her own energy stores. No one should be deprived. Some women who are a healthy weight are doing 16:8 just for the health benefits are able to eat plenty of nutrients in the 8 hours to keep their weight steady. Others get their nutrients from their fat stores plus what they eat. Both are well supplied.

One super interesting thing is how your body puts all the nutrients into your fat stores that you need. One severely overweight man, under medical supervision, fasted for over a year (382 days) until he reached his ideal body weight of 190. He showed no nutrient deficiencies since his fat supplied everything he needed that year. Who would have thought? This was published in a Postgraduate Medical Journal: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/

Even though that was a man, it still establishes that our fat stores can keep up well nourished as long as high insulin is not keeping us from being able to tap into them. And by the way, I'm not at all advocating any women do an extended fast, only pointing out the amazing capacity of the human body to put aside nutrients in our fat tissues that we can live off later.

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Yes, parasites have been associated with cancer since 1895, (NEJM founder). A few other helpful hints:

www.anewstandardofcare.com documentary

Apatone Vitamin C/K3 IV Dr Lodi (FDA trial suspended at stage two, but available in Mexico)

Vitamin C IV Dr Levy

Grounding

Keto diet (low/zero carb)

D3/Lugols iodine Dr David Brownstein, MD /Dr Bruce Hollis, PhD

Gerson therapy, coffee enemas

Sodium Bicarbonate IV Dr Mark Circus/Dr Simoncinni

Gc protein Macrophage Activating Factor (banned in USA, but available in Europe).

Antineoplastins (peptides) Dr Burzynski (Houston) FDA will only allow stage 4 patients.

Ozone IR blood therapy

714X injections Dr Gaston Naessens PhD

B17 laetrile, (Amygdalin)

H2O2 IV

Enzymatic substrates/Citozeatecsrl.ch Prof Pasquale Ferorelli (amazing results for cancer and trauma).

Chlorine dioxide

Chlorine dioxide (www.theuniversalantidote.com) It is being used extensively in Latin America. Dr Pedro Chavez in Mexico is using CLO2 and a few other nutrients to reverse Covid shot injuries and turbo cancer. He can be found on Dr Ana Mihalcea Substack and Brighteon.

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I'll share another interesting old drug off patent w/ excellent safety that *may* help with cancer but gets low attention: Doxycline. Anti biotic but a low dose suppresses enzyme that breaks down gum tissue, and connective tissues. MMP inhibitor at low dose, and low dose for RA/Osteo patients seems helpful.. check out the MIRA trials, the cousin of Doxy, Minocycline for osteo arthritis. And apparently doxy has some anti tumor effects too especially perhaps with cancers from stem cells (but again, no money, no research). Take a crawl around PubMed and you'll see around 30 or so studies. And about 100 more 'on non humans'... so it doesn't get counted for 'humans'. Still...

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PS. I learned to fast inadvertently and now can not eat anything till after 10 am ... I usually eat nothing past 9 pm. And then .. nothing till like 10:30 to 11 am .. when I suck mints to get to noon, when I eat at 12:30. pretty much find it works at staying skinny.

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Yes! I've heard that about doxycycline!

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An incredible story that, Leslie. Very grateful for posting. I have already shared with a few in the family/friends who may be benefitted. I am a long retired industry organic chemist (PhD)with reading interest in recent years on medicinal chemistry, especially chemical structures of drugs. From India, I take part actively in the discussions of presentations of Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. McMillan and a couple of others. I had recently suggested that intrepid researchers from around the world should come together on a programme “Ivermectin for the World” where they will explore thoroughly the multi indication potential of Ivermectin including for cancers and bring it for use. My point is that half the world has no access to safe, cheap, effective, proven and widely available drugs against many diseases. On cancers, they simply cannot afford any treatments today that are expensive. Ivermectin may prove to be a golden drug for them. Fenbendazole too ticks all the boxes. Let the information spread like what is happening here and some day authorities like FDA will have to take suo moto notice. I have also been saying in many fora that hundreds of commonly known drugs from many different indications can be additionally anti viral by virtue of their shared chemical structure features. In this regard, classifications like CAD’s ( cationic amphiphilic drugs) already exist. An entire stock of a high street pharmacy could have been deployed when Covid struck in early 2020. Unfortunately, the world froze. Another point I have frequently highlighted in these comments is that both different diseases and different drugs from many indications are very likely to share biological pathways along their progression/metabolism. This opens the immense possibility that many common drug molecules can have multi indication potentials, no matter what their primary indication is. We have seen it in Covid treatments. You have told us about this great episode with Fenbendazole. We know big pharma has no interest in existing drugs. It is for other researchers to unlock this immense hidden potential. Half the world is desperate for cheap, affordable, effective, safe and widely available drugs to address their unending health concerns.

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I learned about FenBen and Ivermectin treating cancer on Substack earlier last year. Last September my SIL called with her diagnosis of Stage 4 colon/liver cancer and weeks to live prognosis. Her CEA was 6,500. She elected to add FenBen & Ivy(ivermectin) to her chemotherapy. The next day she felt better she said. By this May, her CEA was <100 and her scans were clear. She had last 50# last year. She regained her weight, walks 2miles at a time and is enjoying her 2nd grandchild. Very recently we learned of FenBen anti inflammatory properties and used it successfully to treat severe joint pain in one and cholecystitis in another. SIL says "my fibromyalgia hasn't bothered me since the day I started taking it!

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Thank you for sharing this, Patty! Praise God. What a blessing that she is all clear. Keep spreading the word!

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Also, do you know the doses your SIL took?

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You'll find some using a 222mg dosing. If we had the 222mg, we would have used 1-2/day. It has no side effects that we've noticed or heard except for occasional report of diarrhea initially - thought to be because of expelling parasites. As an aside, when used for husbandry FenBen is so safe it is just added to feed apparently. Another note, both medicines are best absorbed taken with a meal that has a fatty component; egg, peanut butter, bacon, etc.

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We only had 150mg caplets so she took one twice a day. She took 12mg ivermectin daily. She added other things like milk thistle, Vit D & C occasionally

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Thanks! Just curious because some protocols have people taking up to 1000 mg/day of fenben for advanced cancers but great to know that lower doses are effective as well. Many people do well on 12 mg of ivermectin as well. Did your sil experience any side effects from either fenben or ivermectin?

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SIL had no side effects plus she seemed to tolerate her initial chemo very well. Her medical personnel would even comment; "we don't usually see this (doing well/getting better).

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Any recommendation on where to find information about dosage for FZ?

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Dr Makis stack has protocols. He's an oncologist.

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Hello JP, the dosage depends on how severe the cancer is. I believe this is the best protocol: https://substack.com/home/post/p-104665784?source=queue

It has you taking 1000 mg most days. There are very few side effects. My husband was on this protocol while we were waiting to find out about a lump. It turns out it was benign, but he had zero side effects while doing this exact protocol for one month.

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This is fascinating. Is there any research on use of fenben during pregnancy?

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Hi Maria, unfortunately I do not know. But search the Substack titled Fenbendazole Can Cure Cancer and see if they have any info on that. https://open.substack.com/pub/fenbendazole?r=1mvilc&utm_medium=ios

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Thank you so much!

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Amazing wonderful inspiring story of how people can cure themselves of cancer! The pleas by pharma vampires to leave their massive profits alone is one horrific shame of this time. Well, let's just ignore all that & get help to people in desperate need.

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This post is well-written and informative, but I need to correct a common misconception In the U.S., the lack of clinical trials for repurposing old drugs due to insufficient profit is not entirely accurate. The Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act sections 505(c)(3)(E) and 505(j)(5)(F) outline the exclusivity of new drug products. A three-year exclusivity period is granted for a drug product containing a previously approved active moiety if the application includes new clinical investigations (other than bioavailability studies) necessary for approval. Changes affecting an approved drug's active ingredient(s), strength, dosage form, administration route, or usage conditions may receive exclusivity if these investigations were essential for approval.

This means if someone submits a new clinical trial for using FenBen or Ivermectin for treating a specific cancer, receives FDA approval, they could gain a three-year market exclusivity for selling FenBen or Ivermectin for that new indication. If the new indication is a rare disease, like late-stage brain glioma, a seven-year exclusivity might be granted. It’s feasible that with FDA approval, a drug could generate $10 billion during its exclusivity period.

Therefore, the notion that there’s no financial incentive to submit a new approval for repurposed drugs due to lack of patents is not entirely true. Many doctors or patients incorrectly treat this imprecise reason as fact, leading to misunderstandings about the repurposing of drugs like FenBen or Ivermectin.

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Thank you for that clarification. I was not aware of the exclusivity period. Since there is such strong evidence that both fenben and ivermectin work against cancer, do you have any ideas as to why no one has tried to gain FDA approval for those use cases?

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This is easy to understand, and I think there are several reasons why no one has submitted a clinical application despite having so much anecdotal evidence. 1) There is a lack of a strong organization to carry out this plan. Typically, new drug applications (or generics) are handled by big pharmaceutical companies, which aren't fond of repurposing old drugs (with thalidomide being an exception). Outsiders might not be aware of the exclusivity policy; instead, they believe that repurposing old drugs doesn't generate profit for developers and could cost hundreds of millions. 2) Anecdotal evidence lacks systematic proof and credibility. Even wealthy individuals could easily donate millions without expecting returns, but their advisors, who might not believe in anecdotal evidence, could advise against it. 3) With billions of cancer patients worldwide, it's not rare to find dozens showing a complete response after taking these old drugs. However, achieving such results by strictly following FDA clinical trial protocols is challenging, as we have to consider selection bias.

If you're familiar with the FDA's new drug (especially cancer) approval process, you'd know that clinical trials for repurposing old drugs can be quite affordable. For example, trials for FenBen or Ivermectin could start with an investment of $1 million. One could choose indications like late-stage inoperable breast cancer (with a 3-year exclusivity) or inoperable brain glioma (a rare disease with a 7-year exclusivity). For well-known old drugs, once they pass Phase 1, theoretically, other late-stage cancer patients could legally access them through FDA's compassionate use policy. The initial $1 million investor could charge reasonable fees, which could cover the costs of Phase 2-4 trials.

Therefore, if FenBen or Ivermectin is truly effective in treating cancer, anyone can invest $1 million on a first-come, first-served basis and ultimately obtain a 3-year market exclusivity for one or multiple indications.

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Just to add to this a bit, Joe Tippens has tweaked his formulae and now includes an extract of Berberine and I do believe some Frankincense extract. There's also the CBD oil and the broad spectrum of it which I believe includes some type of terpene (sp).? So it would not be just one drug, it may be the interactions. That said, I find Ivermectin wonderful and get a big energy boost when I take any.

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There is a clinical trial going on for ivermectin right now

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Who is doing it?

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Thanks. God bless them, they have helped me in the past.

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I believe one reason fasting is effective is because it's the only way many people can avoid Manufactured free Glutamates. It's in almost everything Processed, but hidden in a million ways. Most people don't have the time, or energy, to thoroughly investigate every item the consume, so fasting is a quick, easy to understand way to get the poisons out of their bodies so our natural systems can function.

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I've never heard of manufactured free glutamates. Can you tell me more?

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Long story, but here's a shortened version:

1. Glutamate is used in => of the neurological processes in the body.

2. Natural Glutamate is bound to proteins that must be broken down by the body in order to use it.

3. Manufactured free Glutamates are made by an artificial process that breaks the glutamate down and it is bound to more easily broken bonds.

4. MSG is the most known, but there are many, many more.

5. The easily broken down Glutamate floods the body and causes exotoxicity and neuron cell death, leading to the vast majority of chronic diseases.

6. Most all processed foods carry MULTIPLE forms of this neurotoxin in the same serving.

7. The best place to start learning more about this is TruthinLabeling.org here:

https://truthinlabeling.org/

Let me know if you have more questions.

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Thank you for that information! I will definitely look into it more--warrants a post for sure. I'll have to put the topic in my 2024 queue.

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Leslie, here's a couple of books you would definitely want to review on this subject as well. The first one is the "Bible" on this subject. And the organization "Epidemic Answers" also is very informative. The second one is written by two authors who have written extensively on this issue. Linda also has a Substack as well "Badditives".

https://epidemicanswers.org/suggested-books/excitotoxins-the-taste-that-kills/

https://www.amazon.com/Consumers-Guide-Toxic-Food-Additives/dp/1510753761

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Excellent read!! I did a search in sub stack for fenbendazole and that's how I found you. I'm really glad I did! By the way, I also do intermittent fasting and have found it to be the best weight loss method out there! Even when I eat cake or stuff I know I shouldn't, the weight does not come back.

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IF really is the best weight loss and health plan out there! Glad you are reading up about FenBen! :)

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What happens if you take FenBen then Ivermectin? I've got both stashed. Think I'm going to do a 'proactive' run with FenBen and some of the other supplements Joe T. sells. The CBD isolate and the Frankencense (sp) extract. Seems like a good insurance policy to have around... beats the colonoscopy, and the Mamo that tells me my breast is too dense to image correctly...

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To answer the question of what happens if you take FenBen then Ivermectin, I'll refer you to a researcher who came up with a protocol to help those with treatment resistance parasites, as well as cancer, and long-term viruses. His protocol B has people taking FenBen for 16 days, and then Ivermectin for 10 days, but never at the same time: https://floridasharkman.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/ParasiteProtocol_10-15-22v12.pdf

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Thank you! I love substack. I get the best information and referrals for research. I just ordered in Joe T's cancer cure with the additions he now supports for the CBD oil etc. Its very effective. Combined with the follow up of Ivermectin, should work on my parasite load as well. Not that I think I have many, but then again, we all probably carry pinworms, to some level. And if you live with pets or are out in the wildernesses frequently? Who knows...

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Thank you Leslie. Excellent write up.

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