What if an inexpensive cure for polio was presented before the AMA in 1949 and they completely ignored it because they had a vaccine underway? New boss same as old boss.
Leslie, your vitamin C post is very interesting and packed with good info (as usual). I’ve been taking 4 to 6 grams daily for almost a year. I’ve used Dr. Mercola’s liposomal formula, NOW brand’s C-1000 with BioFlavonoids and NOW brand’s vitamin C crystals. I prefer the crystals because it’s easy to get a high dose (1/4 teaspoon = 1,100 mg) and I like to avoid ingesting capsules (and the crystals are very inexpensive). I haven’t had any trouble tolerating any of the formulations — maybe I’m just lucky.
A couple of other noteworthy uses for vitamin C include cancer and heart disease. I know you’ve posted about FenBen and you read Dr. Makis so you know the cancer story. I mentioned during one of your office hours a few months ago my own experience with ultraviolet blood irradiation (w/ ozone) — I credited it for a significant reduction in C-reactive protein. The clinic where I did UVBI also treats cancer patients using a protocol much like the protocol Dr. Makis published. A key part of the clinic’s protocol, as with Dr. Makis’s protocol, is high-dose vitamin C — they use 125 grams (not a typo) administered intravenously. I talked with two cancer patients who were getting vitamin C IVs while I was doing UVBI therapy. Both had stage 4 cancers (one had breast cancer, the other had stomach cancer). Both are women in their 30’s. Both were told by their respective oncologists their cancers were too advanced for treatment, they had only months to live, and to get their affairs in order. Both now are cancer-free. One had run a half marathon the week before I met her. Both are continuing with the IV treatments (I think because of its many other health benefits) as well as various other parts of the protocol that also includes UVBI, keto, fasting, and other things. I talked with both patients and the nurse who administers the IVs and who was doing my UVBI therapy about their cancer treatment and what they credit for the success. Both patients were quick to credit “dog de-wormer” (aka FenBen) while the nurse thought vitamin C probably was the key. I suspect it was a combination of things, but all three know more than I know — it was my first awareness about any of those cancer therapies. The nurse said they have many patients with similar stories.
About vitamin C for heart disease, years ago (late 80’s/early 90’s) Linus Pauling, winner of two Nobel Prizes, published his Unified Theory of Heart Disease. He believed heart disease was caused by vitamin C deficiency (not high cholesterol). He said heart disease was essentially a chronic scurvy, explaining that vitamin C deficiency causes arterial damage (i.e., cracking). He showed that high-dose vitamin C would reverse the damage and, combined with the amino acid lysine, would repair the arteries. Interestingly, Pauling’s high-dose vitamin C is a different order of magnitude than what's used in the cancer protocols — Pauling recommended a relatively small 4 to 6 grams per day (or to bowel tolerance) taken orally in divided doses. (Pauling disagreed with the prevailing cholesterol story. About the fact arterial plaques contain cholesterol, Pauling argued cholesterol isn’t the problem; rather, cholesterol actually is the body’s repair mechanism. The cholesterol-containing plaques patch damaged arteries, effectively preventing internal bleeding from killing the patient.) More about Pauling’s unified theory of heart disease (and the usual industry efforts to block effective therapies) can be found here https://www.paulingtherapy.com/. Pauling’s theory originally was published in 1992 in what is now the Journal of OrthoMolecular Medicine https://isom.ca/article/a-unified-theory-of-human-cardiovascular-disease-leading-the-way-to-the-abolition-of-this-disease-as-a-cause-for-human-mortality/.
I have a couple questions - one is I have achenbach's syndrome (fragile veins in fingers that can lead to painful bursting and bruising common in middle age) I've read something that Vit C can help that; however, as someone who has had chronic uti's over different periods I put it together that too much Vit C can lead to urine oxylate or painful crystals. Oof . What to do.
I used to have chronic UTIs over different periods as well. I'm going to address the question of vitamin C producing urinary oxalate in my next post. There's strong evidence that it may produce very little oxalate compared to the amount of in foods and be insignificant.
Here's an interesting anecdote though. Because of my frequent UTIs, I developed an inflammatory condition called interstitial cystitis where my bladder hurts all the time. Through a number of lifestyle and diet changes, I mostly put it into remission but I was still getting up once or twice every night to pee. Since starting high doses of vitamin C, I have been sleeping through the night most nights; I'd say I only get up once or twice at night per week, usually if I have a glass of wine with dinner. This amazes me since I thought I'd never sleep through the night again because of my bladder issues. My sleep number bed gives me hard data as to how many times I got up so it's not just me relying on my fuzzy memory--the change has been astounding, more than I hoped for. The only thing I can think is that perhaps toxins were irritating my sensitive bladder causing me to get up and now those toxins are neutralized. Anyway, the high doses have been helping not hurting.
Yes, but it is not subject to the 9-step process including chemical washing with hexane that mass-produced sunflower oil is. And since it's not being heated through cooking, I believe a small amount is okay. My biggest problem with seed oils is that they're unstable so when they're heated, they get oxidized. There's a form of choline in sunflower oil called phospotidyl choline and this is used to make the lipid by-layer for the liposomal vitamin C. My understanding is that they have to use this particular lipid for the process.
MIL died from sepsis 8 years ago, hinted around to the nurses and heart surgeon about vitamin c. Nobody seemed to know or even understand what I was asking of them. Been doing a quarter teaspoon c salts twice a day for a week or longer, bumped it up to a heaping teaspoon this morning...... Heartburn from hell... So I'm about done with them till I can move on to the Gaps healing process...
I'm sorry about your mother-in-law. It's criminal that all hospitals don't use Marik's protocol since it costs almost nothing and has no side effects. It has no downsides. Sepsis is one of the leading causes of death.
Sorry about your heartburn! Have you tried liposomal vitamin C? I have some coming in the mail and it supposedly does not affect the stomach or digestive system at all.
Leslie, your vitamin C post is very interesting and packed with good info (as usual). I’ve been taking 4 to 6 grams daily for almost a year. I’ve used Dr. Mercola’s liposomal formula, NOW brand’s C-1000 with BioFlavonoids and NOW brand’s vitamin C crystals. I prefer the crystals because it’s easy to get a high dose (1/4 teaspoon = 1,100 mg) and I like to avoid ingesting capsules (and the crystals are very inexpensive). I haven’t had any trouble tolerating any of the formulations — maybe I’m just lucky.
A couple of other noteworthy uses for vitamin C include cancer and heart disease. I know you’ve posted about FenBen and you read Dr. Makis so you know the cancer story. I mentioned during one of your office hours a few months ago my own experience with ultraviolet blood irradiation (w/ ozone) — I credited it for a significant reduction in C-reactive protein. The clinic where I did UVBI also treats cancer patients using a protocol much like the protocol Dr. Makis published. A key part of the clinic’s protocol, as with Dr. Makis’s protocol, is high-dose vitamin C — they use 125 grams (not a typo) administered intravenously. I talked with two cancer patients who were getting vitamin C IVs while I was doing UVBI therapy. Both had stage 4 cancers (one had breast cancer, the other had stomach cancer). Both are women in their 30’s. Both were told by their respective oncologists their cancers were too advanced for treatment, they had only months to live, and to get their affairs in order. Both now are cancer-free. One had run a half marathon the week before I met her. Both are continuing with the IV treatments (I think because of its many other health benefits) as well as various other parts of the protocol that also includes UVBI, keto, fasting, and other things. I talked with both patients and the nurse who administers the IVs and who was doing my UVBI therapy about their cancer treatment and what they credit for the success. Both patients were quick to credit “dog de-wormer” (aka FenBen) while the nurse thought vitamin C probably was the key. I suspect it was a combination of things, but all three know more than I know — it was my first awareness about any of those cancer therapies. The nurse said they have many patients with similar stories.
About vitamin C for heart disease, years ago (late 80’s/early 90’s) Linus Pauling, winner of two Nobel Prizes, published his Unified Theory of Heart Disease. He believed heart disease was caused by vitamin C deficiency (not high cholesterol). He said heart disease was essentially a chronic scurvy, explaining that vitamin C deficiency causes arterial damage (i.e., cracking). He showed that high-dose vitamin C would reverse the damage and, combined with the amino acid lysine, would repair the arteries. Interestingly, Pauling’s high-dose vitamin C is a different order of magnitude than what's used in the cancer protocols — Pauling recommended a relatively small 4 to 6 grams per day (or to bowel tolerance) taken orally in divided doses. (Pauling disagreed with the prevailing cholesterol story. About the fact arterial plaques contain cholesterol, Pauling argued cholesterol isn’t the problem; rather, cholesterol actually is the body’s repair mechanism. The cholesterol-containing plaques patch damaged arteries, effectively preventing internal bleeding from killing the patient.) More about Pauling’s unified theory of heart disease (and the usual industry efforts to block effective therapies) can be found here https://www.paulingtherapy.com/. Pauling’s theory originally was published in 1992 in what is now the Journal of OrthoMolecular Medicine https://isom.ca/article/a-unified-theory-of-human-cardiovascular-disease-leading-the-way-to-the-abolition-of-this-disease-as-a-cause-for-human-mortality/.
I have a couple questions - one is I have achenbach's syndrome (fragile veins in fingers that can lead to painful bursting and bruising common in middle age) I've read something that Vit C can help that; however, as someone who has had chronic uti's over different periods I put it together that too much Vit C can lead to urine oxylate or painful crystals. Oof . What to do.
Hi Ana,
I used to have chronic UTIs over different periods as well. I'm going to address the question of vitamin C producing urinary oxalate in my next post. There's strong evidence that it may produce very little oxalate compared to the amount of in foods and be insignificant.
Here's an interesting anecdote though. Because of my frequent UTIs, I developed an inflammatory condition called interstitial cystitis where my bladder hurts all the time. Through a number of lifestyle and diet changes, I mostly put it into remission but I was still getting up once or twice every night to pee. Since starting high doses of vitamin C, I have been sleeping through the night most nights; I'd say I only get up once or twice at night per week, usually if I have a glass of wine with dinner. This amazes me since I thought I'd never sleep through the night again because of my bladder issues. My sleep number bed gives me hard data as to how many times I got up so it's not just me relying on my fuzzy memory--the change has been astounding, more than I hoped for. The only thing I can think is that perhaps toxins were irritating my sensitive bladder causing me to get up and now those toxins are neutralized. Anyway, the high doses have been helping not hurting.
Which of the two Liposomal Vitamins C brands do you prefer? The Vitablosom 2000mg or Dr. Mercola Liquid Liposomal Vitamin C?
I use Dr. Mercola's.
FWIW, one of the listed ingredients of the liposomal Vitamin C is sunflower oil.
Thank you for your explanation. It makes sense, and if you are comfortable using this product with your family, I’m willing to do so with mine.
Yes, but it is not subject to the 9-step process including chemical washing with hexane that mass-produced sunflower oil is. And since it's not being heated through cooking, I believe a small amount is okay. My biggest problem with seed oils is that they're unstable so when they're heated, they get oxidized. There's a form of choline in sunflower oil called phospotidyl choline and this is used to make the lipid by-layer for the liposomal vitamin C. My understanding is that they have to use this particular lipid for the process.
MIL died from sepsis 8 years ago, hinted around to the nurses and heart surgeon about vitamin c. Nobody seemed to know or even understand what I was asking of them. Been doing a quarter teaspoon c salts twice a day for a week or longer, bumped it up to a heaping teaspoon this morning...... Heartburn from hell... So I'm about done with them till I can move on to the Gaps healing process...
I'm sorry about your mother-in-law. It's criminal that all hospitals don't use Marik's protocol since it costs almost nothing and has no side effects. It has no downsides. Sepsis is one of the leading causes of death.
Sorry about your heartburn! Have you tried liposomal vitamin C? I have some coming in the mail and it supposedly does not affect the stomach or digestive system at all.
I have not, was hoping to get through this c-salt.. But might just load up on it when someone comes around that's sick..
The liposomel vitamin c showed up... Doe you add it to something as it's almost sickening sweet...?
I'm looking forward to Part 3!!